Please comment on the new rules put forth by your teacher. What was your initial reaction? What is your reaction now? Discuss fairness as it pertains to the new rules. Do the new rules favor any one particular person or group? Do they hurt any one particular person or group?
This comment has been removed by the author.
ReplyDeleteThis comment has been removed by the author.
ReplyDeleteThis comment has been removed by the author.
ReplyDeleteAfter being told of the new rules in class today, my initial reaction was that I had to make sure that I did not step outside the line. But then once Mr. Bramanti told kids to take out a sheet of paper and copy down the names of the students that went against the rules it seemed slightly unreasonable. For example, usually after someone laughs in a class for something funny, the student would not be penalized. I know especially after I laughed on multiple occasions and got points off I thought to myself "Is he serious? I didn't do anything wrong, all I did was laugh at something that was funny". Also, when Courteney got up out of her chair and threw something away, she got points off. Know I know that that wasn't fair because she did nothing wrong, she didn't even disturb the class. This constant taking off of points was also unfair because it was only on one side where people were getting points off and the other side was just writing it down. The other side was just laughing away as the side that I seated in was get penalized for pointless reasons.
ReplyDeleteAnctil/#1
ReplyDeleteMy initial reaction to the new rules was they are almost exactly like the speak rules. These rules are fair and appropriate, in my opinion, because they provide structure to the posts and limit the amount of improper grammar and/or the amount of spelling and proper English. The rules are incredibly easy to fallow and allow the blogger to check his/her work with the teachers wants. Because these blogs are quiz grades they should be formal and neat allowing the reader to be easily told what is being written about. The rules are fair because they target all of the bloggers and hold everyone to the same standard. Continuing, these rules are fair because the will also hurt any blogger who does not follow these rules. To follow up on Katie's and Ben's reasoning on the matter that the rules are reasonable, these rules are there to act as a guideline to us and are not there to restrict us from saying what we have to say. They allow us to stay in a controlled writing area and provide a structure to our blogs. (184 words)
My initial reaction to the new rules was sadness because I was very happy were I was sitting. Plus, I felt like I had settled in there. After I was moved I realized it was much better to have the new seats because the whole class room was much quieter. Also I liked the rule against shouting out because I don't think I did it to much of it and it is entertaining to watch the other people loose points for it. Also I have the privilege of subtracting points for Kevin Sun, and that should be fun. I think the rules are perfectly fair because they only target the people that are misbehaving which is what rules are made for. Also I think the new rules don't hurt or target any one except the people that are misbehaving and that is okay. Over all I think that the new rules are completely fair and reasonable.
ReplyDeleteVickers/#1
ReplyDeleteMy initial reaction to the new rules was that they were reasonable and easy to follow. I understand why you would provide these new rules, since they were not clear when we were blogging about Speak. Given a clear list of rules to follow will provide structure and knowledge for how we blog about the memoir Night. Being able to share your answers in appropriate language, I feel is necessary given that these blogs as whole are going to be counted as a quiz grade. The length of one hundred and fifty words I feel is a good length. This allows for the student or writer of the blog to explain their answer. I agree with the rule that no emotions should be included, because although you can not say your emotion, it provides an opportunity to express how you feel about a certin topic the question asks. Thank you for providing the specific rules to follow!
This comment has been removed by the author.
ReplyDeleteBhavsar/#1
ReplyDeleteMy initial reaction to the rules presented in class was that this has got to be a joke. I had thought this because I had never heard of a teacher taking points of students every time they talk out of hand or interrupt the class. I guess this rule is somewhat fair and unfair. Fair because there are certain people in our class that talk out loud and out of turn often. However, I also think it is unfair because the rule only applies to some kids and not others. I do not think it is fair that some kids got points off for laughing alone. This affects certain groups of people and it does not affect other groups. In a way I guess this is fair because not everyone in the class is disruptive and talks out loud. If this rule applied to everyone, I would think it is pretty pointless rule. I do think this rule is odd but I think in the long run, it will be very affective.
Millet #1
ReplyDeleteWhen these new rules were put in by my teacher I had thought the people finally got what they deserved. Those people had been talking the whole year and had been distracting me from my work. However now that I think about it the rules only apply to only a select amount of people and not the whole class which makes it seem unfair. With these new rules put in they favor people who do not talk much or raise their hands to say something. Therefore these rules hurt people who talk a lot and especially talking out loud. These rules seem appropriate for the people who talk out loud most of the time, but still I don’t think it is fair that some of us are not affected by this new rule change while others are heavily. At first I thought the new rules were a great idea, but after thinking about it these rules hurt some people and favor others.
Pilachowski / #1
ReplyDeleteToday in class, Mr. Bramanti informed of us new rules. The new rules were that each day every person would start off with a 100 for participation; every time that person did something “inappropriate,” they would lose a point. At first, I thought these new rules were unreasonable because it would always make everyone self conscious and make them worry about everything they did. However, after having some time to think about the new rules, I think they are fair. I feel this way because if a person acts the way they should, they will not get any points taken off. Kids who behave will get “rewarded” and kids who misbehave will get “penalized.” Also, it makes the participation grade justified at the end of the term, and everyone will know why they received the grade they did. I think the new rules are fair because they describe the way a person should act. They are not unreasonable or unjust. I do not feel they favor a certain person or group because if people act the way they should act, everything will be fine and they will not get points taken off. The rule may be easier for people who would be considered “quiet” versus people who are loud and always wanting to say something. I feel the rules do not hurt any particular person or group because they only refer to the correct way to act. Although the new rules seemed unreasonable at first, they made more sense after I had time to think about them more.
Bhatt/#1
ReplyDeleteMy initial reaction to the new rules were that they were reasonable and recommended because it would ensure nothing would interrupt our busy class. My views of the new rules changed afterwards. I thought the new rules were taken too far when points were taken off for someone getting up to throw something out. I also thought the rules got unfair once people were penalized for laughing at a comment someone else had made. I believe that if a comment made in class was not appropriate for the topic and made other classmates laugh, the person who made that comment should be penalized, not the people laughing. Even though the rules were unfair, I believe they did not favor one particular person or group. Anyone in the classroom who made a comment without raising their hand or laughing at a remark someone made got penalized, and it would be hard for any person in the class to get away with it. Even though the rules are unfair, they do at least favor everyone in the class.
My initial reaction of the new rules set forth in class was that they were completly unfair. This opinion was mostly based off of the fact that only one half of the room was getting penalized for their actions, while the other half of the room were simply keeping a tally of the points taken off for the other kids. My reaction now is that I still think the rules are unfair. Talking out and giving your opinion is what keeps a discussion going, and also brings fun into the class. Along with that, points were getting taken off for unnessesary reasons. In my opinion, my action of getting up to throw a rapper away did not deserve a deduction of points for participation, for if I had not thrown it away it would have resulted in a dirty classroom. This would be distracting to students trying to learn. I believe the rules favor students who are more quiet, and are on the left side of the room. They hurt the students who are loud and on the right side of the room. In particular, Jill and I were targeted the most for our actions. I do not like the new rules.
ReplyDeleteLavigne/#1
ReplyDeleteMy initial reaction of the rules that were presented in class today was that they were fair. I see how these rules could help control a class that was getting out of hand, but as minutes went on people were getting points taken off their participation grade, for reasons I did not think were fair. For example, when one person in the class would get points off for laughing, when in reality the whole class was laughing too. I do think it is fair for people that are disrupting our class and our learning time should be penalized, but not for unreasonable reasons. These rules could favor the quieter ones children in class because they are more likely not to speak out during the duration of the class. Also, these rules will hurt the more outgoing and talkative children that usually speak out during class. But why are they getting points off of their participation grade, when they could be trying to participate but forget to raise their hand, and the kids that sit their and not participate at all will not get points off because they did not break the rules.
Reilly#1
ReplyDeleteMy first reaction about the rules was that they were pretty fair. I could understand why he was making them. So no one would get interrupted or shout out, and the class wouldn't get distracted. As class went on certain people were singled out for doing things that weren't that distracting. For example when Jacqui laughed at Jill for losing a point for talking out. Jacqui didn't actually do anything wrong, all she did was laugh and no one can get mad at someone for laughing if they can't help it. Also when Courteney got up to throw something away and she got points taken off. That to me was very unnecessary, she wasn't distracting the class at all she needed to throw something away and just for that got points taken away from her participation grade. Also it had nothing to do with her participation. I agree partially with some of the rules, like speaking out would be a good reason to get points taken away. However for the other reasons I do not, they are a little too strict. Another thing I did not agree on was how other kids in the class were keeping track of the others participation grade. It's not their job to keep track of us, it's the teachers. Therefore I think most of the rules are unfair.
Dardinski 1
ReplyDeleteMy initial reaction to the new rules was that they were slightly prejudiced towards the girls in the classroom. After they were applied to Kevin I changed my mind. My opinion now is that the rules are very fair and simple. The rules are in place to stop certain people from disrupting class. Enforcing a punishment, especially demerit to a grade, is a powerful motivator and will do an effective job of keeping frequent disruptions to a minimum and preventing interrupting the class being taught in the future. The rules do seem to single out a certain group of people, but this is only because they have been disruptive in the past and have made a bad reputation for themselves. I can see why some would think that Mr. Bramanti is a little on the strict side but if the class stays on its best behavior, and everyone raises their hand to answer or ask a question, or for permission to get up or go somewhere then the class should have no problem staying out of trouble.
Grip/#1
ReplyDeleteWhen I heard the new rules put forth by my teacher I thought they were a little unfair. I think this because just because someone giggles in class doesn't mean they should get points off. I also think that by taking the points off from people who speak out in class is wasting class time. For example, if someone shouts out and then the teacher says you lose the point, then the person who is taking the points off of that person has to take out a sheet of paper and write it down. Also, someone usually complains about it and another persons laughs and it just starts a chain reaction of points getting taken off. I think the new rules do favor a group in particular and that is the not as talkative and people who raise their hand before they talk group. The rules hurt the group that shouts out repeatedly and doesn't raise their hand group. Overall, I think the rules are unfair.
Griffin/#1
ReplyDeleteMy initial reaction to the new rules was that I thought they were a bit unfair. But at the same time I understand where Mr. Bramanti is coming from, our class has multiple interruptions because we all enjoy each other’s company! It is getting near the end of the year, and all of us are comfortable with one another. At times we can all be a little rowdy, but taking points off every time someone laughs or gets up to throw something away, is a little much. I think we should get at least one warning before points start getting taken off. These new rules definitely target a particular group, or specific people. For the people who get the most points taken off, they are just fun and outgoing so they get anxious and it is hard to not laugh at something, or shout out if they are not getting called on. We have a big class and sometimes that is the only way that everyone will hear your thoughts! But, these rules were made for a reason, and I feel that we should respect Mr. Bramanti’s decisions.(189 words)
My instant thought about the new rules was that they sounded fair and reasonable. The new seating definitely helps keep the class in line. But as the class went on, Mr.Bramanti was telling random students to take out a piece of paper and tally up how many points a person lost for talking, laughing, or distracting the class. Some people lost up to ten points off of their class participation grade for the day. I think it it a little bit unreasonable, because losing points for laughing along with the other students isn't really fair. I would admit that some people do talk out a lot during class, which could end up disrupting Mr. Bramanti's lessons. The people that usually get points taking off are just the more outgoing people of the class, which is not a bad thing. Overall the new rules are fair, i think everyone has to learn to accept them.
ReplyDeleteMy initial reaction to the new rules was they were necessary because there are some people who talk a lot in class. Also the rules make sure people come to class on time so that they get a good participation grade. I think the rules are a little unfair because some people do not need these outlines and yet they will be affected by them. However certain people need some sort of guideline so that they do not continue to keep disrupting the class. These rules definitely target a specific group of people. However they also allow the people who are quiet and come to class on time to not be affected as severely. I agree with Kate that we should get some warning before points start to be taken off but there should be some time limit until the warning is not going to be enforced and points will be taken directly off. (154 words)
ReplyDeleteMy initial reaction to the new rules was that they were fair and reasonable. The points are showing people how their behavior was in class that day. At times, points are being deducted over unreasonable actions, such as laughing and throwing something away. As the year goes on, the class is becoming more and more out of control, so I think the points are a good way to keep students controlled so they can get a good participation grade. A better way for points getting deducted over unreasonable thigs, would be warning that student before taking away points especially if they question the teacher why they got points off, they would most likely get ever more points taken away. But since we have a big class, this rule is a good thing to have to help keep students controlled. I think these rules target and hurt some specific groups because they are the loud one's in class. Other students even have a piece of paper to keep track of that specific person's points. My reaction now is that the new rules are fair, but they do have some unfairness in them as well at times.
ReplyDeleteMy initial reaction to the new rules that were set forth by the teacher was that I thought that they were reasonable. Although I did think that the class was fun and productive before the rules. I think that the point rule is fair if the think that were wrong to do were more clearly outlined. Re thinking my first opinion on the rules and the class period that the teacher stated to enforce them, I realized that the rules were not fair among all of the students. On the side of the room that I was sitting on, people were just writing down the deducted points of the group of people on the other side of the room. I do not know if this was an accident or a test of our observation skills but I did notice that this happened. These rules re definitely fair if they are enforced more equally.
ReplyDeleteEDITED: SUN/#1
ReplyDeleteMy initial reaction to the new rules was that it took things a little too far, and that points should not be taken off for a comment. I also thought that it was a joke, as it wasn't taken seriously by many people at first. However, the rules are not that unfair, as the class was rather uncontrollable. However, I believe that the rules are slightly biased, as most of the talkative people were moved to the left side of the classroom, me included, and that the rules target that side more, as the right side is actually responsible for tracking point deductions. Also, the rules should be slightly more lenient, as points were deducted for laughing with the rest of the class, to which ONLY the left side lost points. Also, students were penalized for going to the trashcan. However, it is easy to conform to the new rules, especially if they are adjusted to equally treat the whole class. Also, on another note, it appears that the people that were directly affected by the rules, with points taken off, seem to not favor the new rules, and those that are not affected at all seem to favor the rules completely, which shows further shows uneven treatment. In all, the rules are a necessary step towards a less distracting environment, but need adjusting.
My first reaction to the new rules was that it made me laugh a little. The reason for that was the people that would lose points. They were the students that speak up alot in class. They will talk to each other and make comments that they should not. I feel that it is not fair though. They are the only ones being penalized when every one gets yelled at once or twice a year and they are not getting in trouble. I did not say anything because it made me laugh and i felt that they kind of deserved it but it was not that fair because not all people fallow the rules of the class. It also does not help the students who dont talk and that can hurt there grade for nothing. That is why i thought it was unfair not only to the louder students but to the quieter students. That was my first reaction to these new rules.
ReplyDelete